if (fat) Black Women of West African origin were so detestable sexually, how then are we to explain the millions of lightskinned Black people in our time, today?

The kind of morbid obesity that afflicts many black women today simply didn't exist in past. Plus, a man is much more likely to take advantage of a woman if she's not in a position to say no.

@cam:
Your own personal views and opinions and even anecdotal evidence notwithstanding, the fact remains that every bit of empirical evidence we have on the matter clearly indicates that white men by and large do not desire black women in general as mates in anywhere near the numbers that they do say, asian women. In light of this fact can you please point us to any empirical data that backs up your assertions?

O.

I've said it on this blog before and I'll say it here again: the aversion that many white men have toward black women is one of socialization rather than a lack of organic desire. White women, as a demographic, enjoy a vastly overinflated sexual market value compared to other ethnic groups (especially black women). I say this as someone attracted both to black and white women.

As for alt-righters like Chuck Ross---you'll find that things are never really what they seem. You've had a song-and-dance for awhile now on this blog: that the core motivation behind the WN/alt-right movement is really just good ole fashioned male intrasexual competition. I was skeptical of this for the longest time---but I'm beginning to really come around to this view. The most sustained, heated, and panicked rhetoric from alt-righters is reserved for black male/white female relationships. This wounds them deeply because it drives home the fact that average white men now have to compete with other men in a post-modern enviroment where their traditional status advantage is beginning to erode due to globalization, female empowerment, and misandry. To answer your question: most of the vim-and-vigor from these folks is reserved for black women & men because their ideas, consciousness and motivations are racial to the core.

Which means they’re on a collision course with reality because the truth is this: that the (largely white) elite that really runs this country and makes the actual decisions doesn’t see average white guys like Chuck Ross and OneSTDV as part of the club. To those folks, racial distinctions only exist to the extent that they can be exploited to pit the lower classes against each other.

Other than that, we’re all just peons to be exploited---and targeted by the expanding national security state and burgeoning domestic survelliance appartus when we get too far out line. But these guys not only think that “race wars” are just around the corner, but that having w

Dragnet, brotha, you done went and dropped a bomb on this one! Its so big that i cant do it justice in the space of a blog comment; it deserves a more proper treatment as a blog post in its own right!

Stay tuned...

O.

@sparks:
Hey man, longtime no hear! How are ya? Dont be a stranger next time, you here?

As to your comments: even if we take everything you said into account, it still doesnt explain what i was speaking of in my post; why is there so much energy and ferocity on the part of alt right white guys being directed at fat black women? What gives?

Your thoughts?

O.

Maybe they want hot beautiful black women who are of course in good shape as well as have pretty faces. Seriously, when black women are in good shape, they more likely than other races of women have fantastic bodies from the neck on down because of their better formed and larger breasts as well as bums than other races on average. I do admit liking other races of women's shape of faces better. It has nothing to do with black women's complexion. That's just my opinion, and I know others will feel differently. It really is a shame when any women including black women let their bodies go, but maybe it is more of a shame when black women let their bodies go because it is usually in a physical and visual sense such a disappointment when they do. Keeping in good shape can and does make black women look better from the neck on down more so than other women on average. It's just my opinion.

While it may be true that African American women are not first on the list for White American men, white alt-right men feel that they are the best men on the planet and hence should have their pick of each and every kind of woman. For this reason they want ALL women to be eye candy so that they can have their pick, or at least imagine having their pick. That Black women, women whom their ancestors had sexual rights over are so brazen as to totally let themselves go and not keep themselves fit and attractive for the lustful gaze of the white man, this to them is a disrespectful slap in the face. A huge "Fuck You Whitey" if you will. They take this as an affront to their manhood, to their sexuality.

Considering American history and male sexuality in general, this is the only answer that makes sense.

Obsidian,

Here he goes again with another anti-fat rant:

http://onestdv.blogspot.com/

Those guys in HBD/alt-right circles have the tendency to go hard on Black women because they can't have us. It's the entitlement mentality that gets under my skin so much.

La Reyna

La Reyna, what gets under their foreskin is the fact that while Black men can and indeed do get White women, the reverse is not true. While there are a very slim minority of Black women who find White men attractive, the common attitude is that White men are not as masculine, sexy and smooth as Black men. Their game is not as tight and their junk is pink and small. I'm not saying these are scientifically proved facts but that's the word on the street. The perceived masculinity and sexual superiority of Black men over other men, whether it is true or not, is a gnat gnawing away at the foreskin of the White American alt-right male.

@TC:
"@ Obsidian: "Every bit of empirical knowledge we have on the matter"... Please send me the empirical evidence that clearly shows that white men do not desire black women. I'd be interested in seeing that "evidence"."

O: Well, for starters, there's the simple online dating data, which even Prof. Ralph Richard Banks has discussed in his book, "Is Marriage For White People?" - there's data from OKCupid, which is easily found, and studies conducted by, if memory serves, UCLA, I think. There are many more examples, which include simple observation - Asian Women are more sought out by White Men by easily a magnitude over Black Women. One could suggest that a major reason why, has to do with the weight issue, although I freely admit that I am not aware of any rigorous studies on the issue.

O.

@The Answer:
I think your theory falls right in line with what Ms. Shaw has suggested in her book, though I freely admit that I have yet to read it (and I hope to do so soon, so we can continue the discussion more in-depth in the near future).

O.

Thereason the ALt-Right-White_racist crowd is so ferocious when it comes to "chubby" black women, is that black women as a whole do not find them that impressive. A little smile and some lame flattery may send the white hoochies all a-titter, but black women are not that impressed. In short, the fat "sassy" black woman is their worse nightmare, because said "sassy" women wield sharp, biting tongues that quickly deflate self-styled "cowboy" pretensions. And white women are learning from their black sistas on this score- applying deflating ridicule and sarcasm that lets would be "macho" men know- "you ain't that special.." Black men can deal with this- they are not intimidated- they can handle themselves. They don't need to write a 600 word "rebuttal" or "analysis" because of some sass, to assuage hurt feelings. THE ANSWER breaks it down above also. That's what is going on. In any event, these ALT-RIGHT "HBD" types have been, and are being systematically debunked on the web, as the links below attest. Check them out:

HBD comprehensively debunked
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=006838;p=1#000005

Bogus "Biodiversity" race theories of Kanazawa, Ruston and Lynn debunked
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=006962;p=1#000000

HBD race "evolution" claims debunked
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=006838;p=1#000000

IQ and the Wealth of Nations debunked
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=006798;p=1#000000

Racist HBD envy - the Iceman Inheritance and other analyses by white writers
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=8&t=007107#000008

African game database
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=006992

Steve Sailer and HBD theories on Africa debunked
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=006838;p=1#000004

here are the links

href="http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=006838;p=1#000005">Human
"bio-diversity" HBD claims comprehensively debunked



href="http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=006306;p=1#000000">New
data finds white women primary gainers from "Affirmative
Action"



href="http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=007169;p=1#000000">bogus
Wikipedia moles exposed and debunked



href="http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=006962;p=1#000000">"Biodiversity"
race theories of Kanazawa, Ruston and Lynn debunked



href="http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=006838;p=1#000000">Human
"bio-diversity" HBD race "evolution" claims
debunked



href="http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=006798;p=1#000000">IQ
and the Wealth of Nations debunked - critique of Lynn and
Vanhanen



href="http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=006799;p=1#000000">Jared
Diamond's Guns, Germs and Steel debunked



href="http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=8&t=007107#000008">Racist
HBD envy - the Iceman Inheritance and other analyses by white
writers



href="http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=006708;p=1#000000">Critique
of Cavalli-Sforza & DNA studies - Genes, Tribes, and African
History



href="http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=006576;p=1#000000">Is
the European academy giving a true picture of African genetic
data- a critique



href="http://egyptsearchreloaded.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=bag&action=print&thread=676">Data
on

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