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Wednesday, September 11th 2013

12:15 PM

Quick Hit: Don't Let The Dime Piece Be The Enemy Of The Plain Jane

Hey fellas,
Here again with something for you to consider. 

Way back when I was a regular commenter at Roissy's old blog, I encountered a guy who was from a foreign country, and who was really in a bad way; he hadn't had a Woman in years(!) and was really in the dumps about it, even to the point of talking all kinds of potentially dangerous stuff. 

Noting that no one else seemed particularly interested in assisting the guy, I suggested that he do the following that coming weekend:

1. Hit up a few popular nitespots in the area, spending an hour or so at each one

2. Get himself a drink or two and a table close to the dancefloor or bar

3. Observe what those guys who seemed most successful with the ladies were doing, what those guys least successful with the ladies were doing, and finally, to closely observe the ladies themselves

And report back the results. 

You see, it's been my experience that precious little concern or focus has been put on the importance of observation in pickup circles and venues. To be sure, much of the training in the Venusian Arts has to come from actually doing thus and so, and learning from trial and error, like any other worthy endeavor; but, one can and should learn from the actions of others. Besides, being aware of one's surroundings is always important, and knowing the lay of the land - the de facto mating grounds, so to speak - is hugely important as well. And I've personally found, that often observing people in a given situation from a distance, really does wonders in tempering one's perspective.

The guy in question did exactly what I recommended - and stumbled headlong into some action. During the let out (didn't know such a thing existed in foreign lands too!), and as he was walking across the street, he observed a young lady who was also at the club and trying to hail a cab, *who made first contact by saying something to him* - something along the lines of how nice he looked or something like that (Women have some of thee most lame pickup lines you will ever hear, LOL). Seizing the opportunity, our guy stops in mid-stride, chats her up a bit, hails a cab together, and winds up spending the weekend over at her place. 

Fool's Mate all day, but you know what? A win's a win no matter how you slice it. 

His drought over, he triumphantly comes back to the old Roissy forum to thank me and give his Field Report of that night's events, during which, he notes that the lady in question was about a 3 or 4 on the scale.

And. That's. When. They. Lost. It.

By "they" I mean the Roissy commentariat - they immediately began savaging the poor guy for daring to stoop so low as to get with a lowly 3 or 4 gal on the scale, and so forth - the same lame arses who couldn't be bothered to help the guy out in the first place, now suddenly couldn't say enough about who this guy just spent the weekend with(!).

I mean, you just can't make this stuff up.

Of course, most of those lame dudes were (and are) keyboard jockeys, who most likely didn't see any action themselves other than their own hands, and this has been discussed numerous times elsewhere throughout the Seduction community, so I won't belabor all of that.

Instead, what I want to focus in on is this very real tendency in the community and other venues where Men tend to gather, to ratchet (pardon the pun) up the BS when it comes to Women and their looks. All it amounts to is posturing among the homies for bragging rights - an evolutionary impulse to be sure, because a Woman brings more than straight ahead reproductive value to the table; her looks (or the lack thereof) can assist (or hinder) a Man in his social and career life as well. Granted.

The problem with all of that is it's not kept in proper perspective, especially in the hyper-visual age in which we live, where even supermodels themselves have been clear that what they peddle to the masses is for all intents fake and unattainable in any event, in the real world. 

For all the talk of "HB10s" (or "Dimes" as we call them in the Black community), the simple truth of the matter is that even if such Dimes were available, and I freely admit they DO exist, by definition they are also a very small pool of them. Assuming that you're in the top 30% of all Men even able to make a pitch for one of these Dimes, simple math dictates that quite a few of the Top Guns are going to be left standing when the music stops. Put that together with the FACT that the vast majority of guys walking around, and that includes those of us in the community too, are hardly approaching Male Dime Material ourselves, and it puts things in a much "realer" perspective. Most Women walking around in the average guy's social circle, even if he works really hard to expand it, aren't going to be "Dimes"; at best, they will be strong 7s, maybe an occasional 8. That's about it.

And on top of that, because such ladies are also in high demand, the greater likelihood is for most average guys to grip up gals who are in the 4-6 range. To be sure, you're likely to want to aim for the upper limit there if you're in a position to do so; but let's be frank - how many Men truly ARE in a position to make that choice? For most Men, most of the time, they have to choose from the ladies who are available at any given time. 

If the guy I'm talking about in today's post would have taken the position the keyboard jockeys were advocating, he'd have gone home that night, once again, to his hand, alone. Still bitter, still stewing in anti-Woman anger and all the rest of it. By seizing an opportunity to get with a Woman who was willing to be with him that night, which turned into a weekend of Nut-Busting Bliss, he got his whole situation back on track. 

Even when not meaning to, Sarging, truly does cure all ails. 

Today, he's happily involved in a relationship with a cute gal who really digs him - no one would accuse of her of being a Dime, but she's far from the Hunchback of Notre Dame, too. I'd say she's at least a 5 on the scale - and he's as happy as a clam.

One reason why Game "doesn't work" for some guys is because they have wholly unrealistic expectations of who they can reasonably attract, and then have the nerve to be bitter about the entire enterprise, not taking into account what they're bringing to the table to begin with, among a great many other things. 

There's nothing wrong with enjoying eye candy online and having fantasies of your Dream Dime in your head; but the minute that interferes with your realworld reality of the Women who actually ARE attainable to/for you, is the day you have a much bigger problem than merely trying to get laid. 

Now adjourn your arses...

The Obsidian
27 comment(s).

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Wednesday, September 11th 2013 @ 3:13 PM

Posted by Marc:

In other words, stay in your lane. Great post Obsidian.
Thursday, September 12th 2013 @ 11:44 AM

Posted by TheWidowerSpeaks:

Excellent advise Obsidian.

"There's nothing wrong with enjoying eye candy online and having fantasies of your Dream Dime in your head; but the minute that interferes with your realworld reality of the Women who actually ARE attainable to/for you, is the day you have a much bigger problem than merely trying to get laid."
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And on top of that, because such ladies are also in high demand, the greater likelihood is for most average guys to grip up gals who are in the 4-6 range. To be sure, you're likely to want to aim for the upper limit there if you're in a position to do so; but let's be frank - how many Men truly ARE in a position to make that choice? For most Men, most of the time, they have to choose from the ladies who are available at any given time.

If the guy I'm talking about in today's post would have taken the position the keyboard jockeys were advocating, he'd have gone home that night, once again, to his hand, alone. Still bitter, still stewing in anti-Woman anger and all the rest of it. By seizing an opportunity to get with a Woman who was willing to be with him that night, which turned into a weekend of Nut-Busting Bliss, he got his whole situation back on track.
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For all the talk of "HB10s" (or "Dimes" as we call them in the Black community), the simple truth of the matter is that even if such Dimes were available, and I freely admit they DO exist, by definition they are also a very small pool of them. Assuming that you're in the top 30% of all Men even able to make a pitch for one of these Dimes, simple math dictates that quite a few of the Top Guns are going to be left standing when the music stops. Put that together with the FACT that the vast majority of guys walking around, and that includes those of us in the community too, are hardly approaching Male Dime Material ourselves, and it puts things in a much "realer" perspective. Most Women walking around in the average guy's social circle, even if he works really hard to expand it, aren't going to be "Dimes"; at best, they will be strong 7s, maybe an occasional 8. That's about it.

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The guy in question did exactly what I recommended - and stumbled headlong into some action. During the let out (didn't know such a thing existed in foreign lands too!), and as he was walking across the street, he observed a young lady who was also at the club and trying to hail a cab, *who made first contact by saying something to him* - something along the lines of how nice he looked or something like that
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The guy in question did exactly what I recommended - and stumbled headlong into some action. During the let out (didn't know such a thing existed in foreign lands too!), and as he was walking across the street, he observed a young lady who was also at the club and trying to hail a cab, *who made first contact by saying something to him* - something along the lines of how nice he looked or something like that
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